Lyle Guitars Serial Numbers
Have a mystery for you all. Recently I was gifted a guitar from a friend of the family who felt sorry for me that I lost my Taylor Acoustic Electric due to theft. This guitar plays better than my Taylor, no lie. The sound is rich, deep lows, balanced middle with crisp highs. Action is gorgeous.
Headstock looks like a Martin and has genuine 1965 Grover locking tuning pegs. However, I have Googled for months to find any mention of such a guitar. Guitar is in MINT condition with only one or two slight scuff scratches that could easily be buffed out by a professional luthier. SO, what is this guitar I have? I would love to know if you know anything.
I just purchased a Lyle acoustic guitar in excellent condition. It's Serial # 204 and Model # 712. The top of the guitar says Lyle with a gold cross-like design up by the tuning keys. It looks like it was painted on the wood by the manufacture.
The top tuning key head and neck are the color of milk chocolate with pearl-type fret inlays. The body of the guitar is a light tangerine color showing the natural wood grain under the clear lacquer finish. It has a dark chocolate bridge, and a black pick guard with a white pearl engraved inlay of a floral sprig or vine-type design. There is a set of three circles around the center opening (1 thin black line, a wide band of black and white lines and another thin black line. It has light tangerine and milk to dark chocolate stripped sides and back which is the natural wood grain showing through the clear lacquer finish. JAPAN is engraved on the back of the tuning key head in back.
Mar 25, 2015 What is the selling price of a Lyle guitar serial number 486 model number A-585. - Music question. ESP Guitars & Serial Number Identification. The reason for the guitar's serial number being insufficient is the multiple guitar companies for which.
Can anyone tell me the purchase year this guitar was made? Does anyone know the value of this guitar? Please reply. I got this lyle acoustic (w-400) for $40 at a yard sale - it is THE MOST INCREDIBLE GUITAR you could ever ask for - looks just like a martin d-18 - solid spruce top - sweet figured mahog b&s's - back of headstock even has the valute like a martin - just kicks my buddies real d-18 to pieces - he's so jealous - if you get the chance to own one don't pass it up - it will probably be too cheap to pass up and you WILL regret it later (like I have been kicking my own ass for decades for passing up a 60's Gibson byrdland for $400). I purchased a Lyle model A690 recently from an old man in northern California who had gone blind and developed arthritis and didn't feel like playing anymore.
He mentioned in passing that he had found (?) The guitar somewhere. The case was thickly covered in dust and pretty much rusted toast, but the guitar is immaculate, looks brand-new with the exception of the tuners, rusted tight. The serial is #480 so I guess its fairly old, but how old is my question? A weird aside; in the case was a handful of fender-style medium tortoise-shell picks monogrammed Eddie Kramer. Does that ring a bell for anyone? Any and all information would be appreciated!
I just bought a Lyle w-460 Hummingbird 'lawsuit' guitar and i just have 3 words for all y'all I'M IN LOVE!!!! OMG -this guitar nails the 'Gibson Tone' just nails it! I have a 12-string Lyle in really good shape. Bought as a b-day present from me back in late 1970's from a pawn shop. I need to take it to a luthier to have it set up better, but it sounds really good. Just right now the action is a little high, but not that much wear.
For a long time, I put it away, finding it hard to chord as a relative newbie back then. But now, I am more than ready. It does say it was made in Korea ~ which makes it seem a little more rare. The sound is still great or maybe even better! Wish I knew what it was worth, but I hope the guy I find to set it up will know more. Ok, Lyles were made by Matsumko in Japan from the mid 60's to around 74 or so.
Are they rare? Ummm, no, not so much. Unusual, yes, rare no. For those who have 335 copy Lyle, the model 5102T, it's the EXACT same guitar as the Aria's, Westbury's, Epiphone's of that era. See, Matsumko built for dozens of companies guitars.
Aria, Westone, Phoenix, Westbury, Conrad, some early Domino's, Epiphone, and some house brands for Sears and JC Penny. Much like Ibanez and Teisco did. For example, let's say you were a distributor, named Bob. You would put in a bid to the different companies. And say, 'Who can build me 5000 Bob 335 copies, for around $30.00 wholesale?' Matsumko would say, 'I can!' And boom, 5000 Bobs were lining the store shelves.
The company that distributed the Lyle's, LD Heater, WAS NOT Owned by Gibson or Norlin. They distributed them, much like they distributed Lyles. Quality-wise, they range from complete and utter crap, to OMG! Acoustics, tend to fall into the former range. Electrics, mostly the hollow bodies, were somewhat, but not always better. Solid bodies, mostly made from plywood, BUT they do have their own feel and sound. I happen to love them, others despise that cheap feel and sound.
Remember, they were built to fill the growing demand of guitars, that the kids saw on tv, with the Monkee's and the Beatles. I had this guitar handed down to me. It is in pretty rough shape. I think it is in good enough shape to restore to good condition/used shape. Before I attempt such a thing I would like to know more about the guitar itself.
I know the history of Lyle and 'Lawsuit' guitars so that part is done. The body has a cherry red finish with 2 'f' openings. The neck has had some stress on it, enough to have the wood lift a little on its grain pattern about 2 inches long from the nut to the fret board. I am not sure if injecting glue into this will keep the neck from breaking in the future.
The fret board is loose at the nut but I believe I can glue it again. This is not the first restoration I have done. I have restored a flute and a grenadilla wood clarinet. Any comments regarding how to or if I am wasting my time will be welcome. It looks like there was no information about Lyle guitars on google back in the day.Now you can find some info, but very little. I purchased my first guitar of my life age 14 from a seller on ebay for $100.
I baught an awesome looking black SG style guitar with the name Lyle on it. Years later now, I know a lot more. Lyle is one of the rarest brands of guitar manufactured in the world. This rarety however does not increase the value of the instrument. Lyle is not a brand that can even be found in the guitar Pricing Guide. I have looked.
The value is determined usualy by the seller. If your selling one, hit me up. Lyle was never associated with Gibson. Lyle was never purchased and closed down by Gibson. However, Lyle started manufacturing Gibson style guitars at a cheaper rate but they failed to observe copyright laws.
Lyle was created by the Motsimoku Company in Japan from 1965 to 1970. In 1970 the Motsimoku Company was slapped with such high lawsuits by the Gibson Corp of the US, that they bankrupted and closed. Making Lyle one of the rarest brands of guitar because of their extreamely limited production life of 5 years.
Long Live The Lyle! May You Play On For Another 30 to 40 years and beyond! Lyle guitars were some of the best COPY CAT guitars made during the LAWSUIT years - years where Lyle (made in Japan) attempted to COPY higher end American made Gibson and Fender guitars - hence 'lawsuit' guitars. There are some other companies that attempted to 'copy' American instruments but many of those were made in Korea or other countries and were not of the quality that the Japanese 'Lyle' copies of American instruments. They would have done well to make their own branded guitars - they're very well made. Another 'copy' company from that era is Ibanez - they made excellent instruments, too, and they paid quality guitarists to help them market their marque - George Benson, for example. Enjoy your guitar.
I picked up a Lyle 630L recently for $100. Best playing acoustic I've ever played and sounds awesome, but it has a few issues. First being the fact that it's been played long and hard, with at least 3 frets showing hard wear. I had to tweak the torsion rod and raise the adjustable bridge some to stop a few frets from buzzing, but one is still a stickler. Bridge has cracked between the peg holes but the pegs still stay secure.
My thought is to use good epoxy to stabilize it. Any thoughts? Also, leaving the strings taught over the years seems to have warped the body some, but there are no cracks or finish peeling from it. One tuner has been replaced with another style tuner, (looks like crap from the back) and I'd love to replace it. Does anyone know where I could find a single tuner knob? It's the G string, (first on the bottom) so I'm thinking that is right-handed tuner? Maybe someone has replaced their stock tuners and has a single or set of them I could buy?
Please reply to this thread if you do. Otherwise I need to go buy a set of Grovers or something. I have a very unique Lyle guitar. It is apparently a 1972 but on the headstock it has the pearl from Gibson and it says Gibson on it as well on the headstock. It has the tail trapeze and the adjustable saddle. I recently had it set up and there is absolutely no fret buzz, it looks like it just came off the wall, stellar condition.
My tech was stunned at the body condition and even the frets were like a new guitar? This is the only guitar I have seen that is definately a Lyle but it has Gibson, correctly done on the front of the headstock? I went in to the acoustic section and played a Gibson new hummingbird next to mine and it sounded cheap! I was stunned.
I have no idea what this is worth but is like the perfect guitar. No dents, nicks, scratches, just and old guitar that has been babied, no warping anywhere, I think this will play another 30 years easy. If anyone knows about a Lyle with a Gibson logo and Gibson written on the headstock, please let me know. : DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LYLE GUITARS. I ONCE WAS TOLD THAT THEY WERE AFFILIATED WITH GIBSON. I have found more information on this site regarding Lyle Guitars, than anywhere else on the internet. Mine is a flat top model L-12.
Cornell notes template microsoft word. The guitar appears to be in very good to excellent condition, with some minor wear on the finish near the pick guard, and sounds fantastic to my tin ear. I have just begun to play guitar and would like to know if this is a good guitar?
Omerta - City of Gangsters. (sorry for my bad english, not. I played the demo before the patch came out and the sandbox mode wasn't very good at all but. Omerta english patch. Omerta Patch. I've managed to get. Please anyone have the patch for omerta? My only problem is that the English patch isn't working for me at all.
Is it actually worth anything?